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    DAYNE Beams says the Brisbane Lions are closer to winning a premiership than former club Collingwood.

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    Its true tho

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    y u mad tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeah_nah View Post
    Its true tho
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    Agree with Beams.

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    Maybe.

    Collingwood have a shit tonne of young talent on their list, whether that talent is any good will be found out over the next 3 years. Buckley has basically spent his tenure rebuilding a premiership winning list which hurts them now but they could bounce back around the end of Cloke/Pendles lifespan.

    Brisbane now have a ridiculously good midfield and everything else is still unproven. Their KPF stocks are pretty damn abysmal. The solution to their KPF issues isn't on their list yet. So they are basically hoping to Toaster their way to success by having a stellar midfield, strong defence and hope that it papers over a mediocre at best forward line.

    Until Brisbane get the KPF talent on their list I'd probably say that Collingwood are in better shape going forward, but it's definitely a lot closer than it was 12 months ago which is quite remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    Maybe.

    Collingwood have a shit tonne of young talent on their list, whether that talent is any good will be found out over the next 3 years. Buckley has basically spent his tenure rebuilding a premiership winning list which hurts them now but they could bounce back around the end of Cloke/Pendles lifespan.

    Brisbane now have a ridiculously good midfield and everything else is still unproven. Their KPF stocks are pretty damn abysmal. The solution to their KPF issues isn't on their list yet. So they are basically hoping to Toaster their way to success by having a stellar midfield, strong defence and hope that it papers over a mediocre at best forward line.

    Until Brisbane get the KPF talent on their list I'd probably say that Collingwood are in better shape going forward, but it's definitely a lot closer than it was 12 months ago which is quite remarkable.
    we have plenty of promising talls, just need to get games into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel. View Post
    we have plenty of promising talls, just need to get games into them.
    Most of the ones I've noticed will play defence for you. No one has proven they can fill the hole left up forward. You have a lot of nice pieces but you don't have the forward line.

    Which is why I'm calling it in Collingwood's favour. I think they are more likely to get enough success stories out of their drafting before you get a forward worth a damn. But your midfield shreds theirs as of right now.
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    He's only stating the obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    Most of the ones I've noticed will play defence for you. No one has proven they can fill the hole left up forward. You have a lot of nice pieces but you don't have the forward line.

    Which is why I'm calling it in Collingwood's favour. I think they are more likely to get enough success stories out of their drafting before you get a forward worth a damn. But your midfield shreds theirs as of right now.
    well that'll make sense as our forwards are playing in their first years. freeman, mcstay and close have shown far more than i expected them to as 18-19 year olds, they'll only get better next year when they add some muscle and when we include beams, rich and bundy into the midfield. we have a good base but need time. hoping they can all kick 25+ goals next year, but most of our goals will come from the midfield and small/medium fwds - mayes/green etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    Most of the ones I've noticed will play defence for you. No one has proven they can fill the hole left up forward. You have a lot of nice pieces but you don't have the forward line.

    Which is why I'm calling it in Collingwood's favour. I think they are more likely to get enough success stories out of their drafting before you get a forward worth a damn. But your midfield shreds theirs as of right now.
    While I think this is true, and while I do believe that the Pies will probably get more finals appearances over the next couple of years than the Lions, I believe Beams words to be true, simply because I don't think the current Pies team can win a premiership.

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    Think Collingwood are more likely to win a flag than Brisbane first
    Think Brisbane are currently in a better position to do so.

    If AFL give them better financial support, and the new training base is done to full scale, could be very interesting.

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    Pies will finish bottom 6 next season. Lions will be in the 8-12 section of the ladder.

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    Bottom four will be;

    St. Kilda (last)
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    The whole concept of analysing which bottom 8 side is closer to a flag is completely ridiculous. It relies on a heap of factors that are yet to even occur. As it stands both Brisbane and Collingwood are a fair way off, and that will only change with some good recruiting/developing in the future. And considering the recent history in this area of both Collingwood/Brisbane, there's literally no basis to predict either side with confidence.

    Brisbane have a good midfield, possibly the worst overall KP stocks going around though. Collingwood have better KP stocks but an inferior midfield and a fitness team that I assume turns up to work high/drunk more often than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Pattinson View Post
    Bottom four will be;

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    Patto pls. Carlton will finish 5th last. Essendon for the spoon after they have all their players suspended and only Chappy, Cooney, Goddard et al., are running around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Waiteing View Post
    Patto pls. Carlton will finish 5th last. Essendon for the spoon after they have all their players suspended and only Chappy, Cooney, Goddard et al., are running around.
    I was going to put Essendon in there... but figured nothing will come of it, James Hird will get another extension and a pay rise and the AFL will make sure this never gets mentioned ever again.

    So we will finish bottom 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Waiteing View Post
    Patto pls. Carlton will finish 5th last. Essendon for the spoon after they have all their players suspended and only Chappy, Cooney, Goddard et al., are running around.
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    Really rate Brisbane's midfield that contributed to being last in contested possessions and 16th in clearances last year (On average difference to opponent)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    Did I become this awesome or was it something I was born with?

    Im not sure myself. I think it is one of those things where I was born with a crop of awesome and then I have kind of watered the gardens, tended to the farm and created this farmable mass of fantastic brilliance. I have so much to give and share out but just not enough hours in the day to give it all out.

    Its hard sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.A.F.C View Post
    Really rate Brisbane's midfield that contributed to being last in contested possessions and 16th in clearances last year (On average difference to opponent)
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