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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
    I've been practicing earth spirit against bots. holy fuck it's frustrating.
    Only played him once and I don't plan to ever play him again.

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    Yeh, I've never played him


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    no the hero is fine I'm having a pretty good time learning the combo's and switching to quick cast has helped a lot. It's the bots that are frustrating.

    three heroes hard lane and no mid new meta
    what's that? we're 70 hp from killing their carry, better go control that rune
    it's 10 minutes in. time to tp mid and 5 man push
    2 mekanisms new meta
    They're pushing a tower? lets defend by walking into their whole team one at a time

    also the instachain stuns are pretty infuriating

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    This game is impossible to move up in MMR. All you do is win 100-200 MMR then go on losing streak back to where you started. Rinse and repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbes View Post
    This game is impossible to move up in MMR. All you do is win 100-200 MMR then go on losing streak back to where you started. Rinse and repeat.
    get better at the game. move up in MMR. I don't see what's so hard about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
    get better at the game. move up in MMR. I don't see what's so hard about that
    Its clearly not that simple.

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    If I created a new account it would be a lot higher than my current mmr. Especially if I try to get the highest hero dmg and kda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbes View Post
    Its clearly not that simple.
    But it really is. If you're gaining mmr in win streaks only to lose it all later then your rating didn't increase because you improved. It was a statistical fluke that you got a few easy games in quick succession. you were then paired with better players and got your ass sent back down to where you belong.

    get better at the game and you'll go up again and not drop back.


    Dev Two you did create a new account

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
    But it really is. If you're gaining mmr in win streaks only to lose it all later then your rating didn't increase because you improved. It was a statistical fluke that you got a few easy games in quick succession. you were then paired with better players and got your ass sent back down to where you belong.

    get better at the game and you'll go up again and not drop back.


    Dev Two you did create a new account
    Its a team game, you really rely on your team and there for the luck of the dota 2 MM system. At times you can just get terrible team mates such as the story dylan posted earlier, other times you get team mates that understand how the game works. Go watch any of the higher MMR streamers on twitch, They are so much better then the other players at times, yet doesn't transition into a win. Due to it being a team game and they need contributions from their team. Hence why a lot of them will play stacks.

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    Yeah I think after the first 10 MMR games the rest is pretty pointless.

    If everyone in the game got different MMR's based on their individual results (how this is done, I have nfi) then maybe I'd change my mind a little but it's totally up to whether you win or lose and not your individual performance. So you could be playing really well, top hero damage in the game, do everything right individually but lose because the rest of your team isn't as good as the other team and the oppo is getting carried hard.

    My starting MMR was about 3850 which I held for quite some time, at one stage it dropped to 3550, I didn't suddenly get bad although no doubt I played some bad games in that batch. I found when my MMR was at it's lowest it became a hell of a lot harder to get it back up due to the lack of team work you get and given it's quite hard to get a carry every game (due to the majority wanting to play mid and carry) it becomes hard to get constant wins.



    Lost my 4k rank recently, my team seems to get constantly out drafted which is quite frustrating. Also really hate vsing Slark, ridiculous hero when someone plays them often.

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    It's not luck it's proven to work correctly. If you're just fluctuating around a rating then that is your true rating. Dev if you played nirmally on your new account you would eventually end up around about the same mmr as you're old account.
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    If you're a solo mid player then that maybe true.

    MMR calibration is based on the ten games plus the prior required games. It's biased towards win rate, kda and hero damage. This was abused recently by zues ulti spammers getting 5k mmr without doing anything besides pressing 'r' when it's off cd. They since attributed zues an adjusted algorithm.

    I'll take that as a challenge that this new account won't be higher than my current mmr.


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    Over a large sample size until you stabilise out obviously. The complaint wasn't about stupid shit like that but playing games properly.

    How is that playing normally?
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    6 game win streak

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    wtf

    Abaddon rank before match - 81st

    Abaddon rank after win - 98th - Match 1013858562 - Overview - DOTABUFF - Dota 2 Stats


    Big come back in which I did most hero damage, most hero heal and second highest tower damage in game, how does that work?

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    Only 1 deny though. To be a top Abaddon you need at least 4 denies

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    haha that must be it!

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    Dota 2 - Oracle

    Oracle is coming.

    that will just leave wyvern, pitlord and arc warden still to be added from Dotoriginal game

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    And that Sun Wukong dude as well I think?


    Just about over this game atm, having that run with just shithouse team mates.

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    Never played Oracle. What do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan123 View Post
    And that Sun Wukong dude as well I think?


    Just about over this game atm, having that run with just shithouse team mates.
    shit team mates. game is literally unplayable. volvo pls fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
    shit team mates. game is literally unplayable. volvo pls fix
    Really frustrating in rank with how the new AP works that there's always a carry and mid hero pre picked.

    The carry (dusa) in my first game just QQ'd and refused to fight after we lost a T2 and was in the enemy team jungle.

    Next game our storm decided to farm mid whilst SK roamed, got skilled by sk but storm was blaming the rest of the team (he was involved in the least team kills as a mid storm...).


    Might just play RD/SD/AR for a little while to mix things up.

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    I really want to play ARDM but the queue time is so long

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
    I really want to play ARDM but the queue time is so long
    queues for everything seem to be so much longer than what it was about a year or so ago. Can take me up to like 6min to find a ranked game at times which is redic.

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    Had a couple of big games today, 78min Dusa game which I lost, their ancient was just a few hits off being destroyed as well, had 8k sitting in the bank for ages but no slots.

    Also had a pretty big game on Luna in RD started early with a double kill including the FB and had a godlike. Only went up 9 points in the dotabuff rankings, I'm beginning to think it's all based on the difficulty they rate the division of the game you played in, then the win/loss although there's no way of knowing that without having the division showing for each individual game.

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