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    Quote Originally Posted by Fools Gold View Post
    Looks like it's a quick blanket ban that's targeting pages that link to external websites.

    BOM, Betoota Advocate, The Chaser, SA Health & SA Networks been blocked (just at a quick glance this morning). I'd suspect that as the appeals come through this will get fixed but it's gonna be an interesting final solution they'll have to come to
    Not really. Just blow him to pieces and threaten his replacement with the same until they turn it off

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    ban the BoM, ban the Newcastle Jets

    don't ban 7 nightly news Tasmania, or Win News Tasmania. They really have no idea.

    Also, in the bomb Facebook camp.
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    I doubt Facebook even gives a fuck/knows that Tasmania is apart of Australia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    I doubt Facebook even gives a fuck/knows that Tasmania is apart of Australia.


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    THey will when the ballistic missle leaves the Tasmanian airbase heading right to Zuckerberg HQ.

    Its just a no brainer for me atm and id argue to just plug him irregardless at this stage.

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    Yikes, somehow Facebook are making the Murdoch media looking like the good guys.

    Small media and publishers are the real losers in this
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    I do like seeing who is banned, who is not.

    Mark Mcgowan is fine. Zak Kirkup, the leader of a Lib WA party, not.

    NSW and Vic health departments are still up. SA and Qld, not.

    Think the algorithm they used was a bit dodgy. Think it is an own goal by facebook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyVanVeen View Post
    I do like seeing who is banned, who is not.

    Mark Mcgowan is fine. Zak Kirkup, the leader of a Lib WA party, not.

    NSW and Vic health departments are still up. SA and Qld, not.

    Think the algorithm they used was a bit dodgy. Think it is an own goal by facebook.
    Its based on which sites have advertising features on there own website

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    Quote Originally Posted by whale View Post
    Yikes, somehow Facebook are making the Murdoch media looking like the good guys.

    Small media and publishers are the real losers in this
    Yeah the little guy loses because the government takes bribes from the mainstream media to create a stupid law.

    Standard operating procedure really.

    Same as the lockdowns that are designed to directly benefit the big donors while screwing the crap out of the little guys or the whole GME stonks reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wogitalia View Post
    Yeah the little guy loses because the government takes bribes from the mainstream media to create a stupid law.

    Standard operating procedure really.

    Same as the lockdowns that are designed to directly benefit the big donors while screwing the crap out of the little guys or the whole GME stonks reaction.
    If big tech actually paid some tax in this country perhaps the government would be less inclined to rock their boat

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    I think that there's a strong possibility that Miss Wolfie is in fact a virgin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    If big tech actually paid some tax in this country perhaps the government would be less inclined to rock their boat

    I mean if we didn't tax at such absurdly high rates to make avoiding as much of it as possible worth spending millions, they probably would.

    Plus let's not act like Rupert and his mates are any better on that front, they just make bigger donations to the politicians...

    Really, better to just screw the little guys to protect your donors though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wogitalia View Post
    I mean if we didn't tax at such absurdly high rates to make avoiding as much of it as possible worth spending millions, they probably would.

    Plus let's not act like Rupert and his mates are any better on that front, they just make bigger donations to the politicians...

    Really, better to just screw the little guys to protect your donors though.
    Don't see how the little guy gets screwed by this law once facebook get dragged kicking and screaming the negotiating table (as google has done with news corp)
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    I think that there's a strong possibility that Miss Wolfie is in fact a virgin.

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    It's pretty hard to compete with ~5% concessional tax rates paid on royalties for the exploitation/use of IP, which is often calculated as all bar 2-3% of AU operating profits.

    Then you have the developing countries like India offering tax holidays for employing locals, Singapore too.

    Big tech has been targeted repeatedly with new measures for years. The latest instalment is at an OECD level and due to be implemented by year end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    Don't see how the little guy gets screwed by this law once facebook get dragged kicking and screaming the negotiating table (as google has done with news corp)
    Little guys are hardly getting that though are they, they'll just lose the free advertising and exposure because they wont be able to negotiate their own deals.

    Don't know why Facebook would go to the table anyway. Rest of the world isn't doing it and it costs them nothing while hurting all the media businesses big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wogitalia View Post
    Little guys are hardly getting that though are they, they'll just lose the free advertising and exposure because they wont be able to negotiate their own deals.

    Don't know why Facebook would go to the table anyway. Rest of the world isn't doing it and it costs them nothing while hurting all the media businesses big time.
    EU will do it shortly. They would have done it before us if it wasnt for Covid. The actual concept came from the French parliament. Scomo and Rupert just latched onto it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblor View Post
    It's pretty hard to compete with ~5% concessional tax rates paid on royalties for the exploitation/use of IP, which is often calculated as all bar 2-3% of AU operating profits.

    Then you have the developing countries like India offering tax holidays for employing locals, Singapore too.

    Big tech has been targeted repeatedly with new measures for years. The latest instalment is at an OECD level and due to be implemented by year end.
    Learned an awfully long time ago that 5% of something is better than 100% of nothing. Australia's 30% tax rate is basically constantly proving that and everyone keeps acting surprised by it.

    If it was 10% the scope for it being worth spending millions on legal and accounting quickly becomes a genuine question.

    The current rates just bleed the smaller guys while those with the ability will pay millions to avoid it successfully because there is so much incentive to do so because of how punitive the rates are currently in comparison to the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wogitalia View Post
    Little guys are hardly getting that though are they, they'll just lose the free advertising and exposure because they wont be able to negotiate their own deals.

    Don't know why Facebook would go to the table anyway. Rest of the world isn't doing it and it costs them nothing while hurting all the media businesses big time.
    Little guy can negotiate a revenue sharing deal of 0% if the exposure is what really matters
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    I think that there's a strong possibility that Miss Wolfie is in fact a virgin.

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    I love how the government negotiation tactics of having a sook worked so well with China there trying it with Facebook as well. Bullying, makes you look bad etc

    AFAIK the bill says if you don’t negotiate then you need to stop showing news content or it will go to arbitration. They haven’t negotiated so they took it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    I love how the government negotiation tactics of having a sook worked so well with China there trying it with Facebook as well. Bullying, makes you look bad etc

    AFAIK the bill says if you don’t negotiate then you need to stop showing news content or it will go to arbitration. They haven’t negotiated so they took it down.

    Globalist bullying dogs.


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    We kind of are the best person to be doing this. We are as self sufficient as a country can possibly be resource wise etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    I love how the government negotiation tactics of having a sook worked so well with China there trying it with Facebook as well. Bullying, makes you look bad etc

    AFAIK the bill says if you don’t negotiate then you need to stop showing news content or it will go to arbitration. They haven’t negotiated so they took it down.

    Globalist bullying dogs.


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    Check out all the sook pieces on news.com.au and the likes if you want to see a true melt.

    They've had about 15 so far all utterly biased. One compared Zuck to a collapsing dictator if you want extreme exaggeration. It's weird to see them apply the Trump coverage to something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    I love how the government negotiation tactics of having a sook worked so well with China there trying it with Facebook as well. Bullying, makes you look bad etc

    AFAIK the bill says if you don’t negotiate then you need to stop showing news content or it will go to arbitration. They haven’t negotiated so they took it down.

    Globalist bullying dogs.


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    lol as if this move has anything to do with them obeying the law
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    I think that there's a strong possibility that Miss Wolfie is in fact a virgin.

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    What’s it do with then? FB clearly willing to slap their dick around to prove a point on what ‘news’ is on the platform with banning everything.

    What would them following the law look like? This is the intended consequence of the government bill no?

    Dunno if I’m missing something but I also don’t understand what Facebook have to pay for, all the news corp pages etc only link to paywalled bullshit that they get to market on Facebook for free.

    Guess FB get some advertising dollars from engagement of boomers arguing in the comments or something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    What’s it do with then? FB clearly willing to slap their dick around to prove a point on what ‘news’ is on the platform with banning everything.
    You answered your question with your second sentence
    What would them following the law look like? This is the intended consequence of the government bill no?
    no

    Dunno if I’m missing something but I also don’t understand what Facebook have to pay for, all the news corp pages etc only link to paywalled bullshit that they get to market on Facebook for free.

    Guess FB get some advertising dollars from engagement of boomers arguing in the comments or something?


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    It's an anti trust law that dictates anyone with unfair market share of online advertising revenue has to
    a) come to an agreement for advertising revenue sharing with news outlets (as outlined previously any small news outlet reliant on facebook's exposure can elect to a 0% share of advertising revenue) or;
    b) a government committee will establish that revenue sharing model on their behalf or;
    c) the website has to block all content from their page
    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle E View Post
    I think that there's a strong possibility that Miss Wolfie is in fact a virgin.

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    News organisation reeling after zuckbook has a hissy fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle E View Post
    I think that there's a strong possibility that Miss Wolfie is in fact a virgin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fools Gold View Post
    Front page of the Courier Mail - Saturday
    Facebook is planning a change which will allow pedophiles on it's Messenger service to escape detection. Australian police will lose up to 20,000 tip-offs a year about suspected child abuse. Kids will suffer horrendously. Predators won't be caught. But our authorities cannot convince the social media giant to change its mind. Does this make Mark Zuckerberg the....

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