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    Quote Originally Posted by yeah_nah View Post
    What’s the situation there, did he assume he would just get in? Was he given some assurances he would be allowed in?
    Sounds like the visa they selected for has no quarantine requirements; so Vic Gov need to approve, which they aren't doing (remains to be seen if they were going to previously but backlash changed their opinion)

    Not sure what the other 16 unvaxxed players that are coming did in terms of which visa they selected etc.


    He may well be sent home, get a visa approved that includes quarantine, and come back again.

    Or he will get sent home and not even bother applying for the other visa.

    Or he will get sent home, and apply for the other visa that includes a quarantine, and still get denied and/or not enough time to get approved before the Open.

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    They ticked the wrong box on his entry form apparently lolza. Eat a dick cunt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    In the end I was wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    In the end I was wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    Apologies as I didnt indicate im removing the 85 and over category. I thought i wrote that early days. Ill write up my calculations I did as its on a Word file on my PC. Its based on data Statista whereby I just exclude that age range and then account for population increase within those 2 years that they set it at. Im down in Busselton for the next fortnight so will do it then.

    From top of my head it was 2.5% increased mortality rate for 85 and under. 1.2% gets stripped for population increases. This is for 2021.

    I also did Sweden, Brazil etc too.

    I know what you will say. A 85 year old life matters. It just doesnt. You are on borrowed time and will die of anything at that stage. Stop measuring them as equal to anyone. If given the choice between killing 100 85 year olds or saving 1 of those 5 year olds in the Devenport tragedy id kill the 100 85 year olds.
    Bump.

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    Got the Vid in London. Hauled up in a hotel with the GF so not too bad. Legit no symptoms after the first 12 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sblack View Post
    Got the Vid in London. Hauled up in a hotel with the GF so not too bad. Legit no symptoms after the first 12 hours.
    What's the media like over there? Hospital admissions have gone up quite a bit in England in the past week or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trigg View Post
    Bump.
    Been away on holiday

    The key stat to focus on is

    The age-adjusted rate was 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population, an increase of 15.9% from 715.2 in 2019.

    The thing is the calculations for this are simply well horse shit. The age adjustment calculations are here

    https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad...dDeathRate.pdf

    So a thing in the US for 2020 is they had the highest rate ever of deaths for over 85 BUT had the lowest rate ever for under 15s. The thing with this age adjusted death rate is they give bugger all relevance to child deaths'. Its a flawed concept completely so all you can do really is look at totals and adjust them properly

    Death totals for 2019 to 2020

    Over 85 went from 878,035 to 1,007,114 or 129,079 excess deaths. 80 to 85 went from 350,261 to 475,033 or 124,772. Add both numbers together and its 253 851

    US say excess death as a whole was 519,609 which leaves 265,758 deaths outside the under 80 crowd. US has had a population growth of 4.1% in this time frame or roughly 14.5 million people primarily in the area that had a age adjusted death rate higher then 828. I mean if i fly over to Perth 250,000 sick people what do you think happens to our death rate? Excess death caused by population increase rounds out to be 102,448 so it leaves us with 151,403

    When you do the age adjusted calculation minus this the age adjusted calculations rise from 715.2 to 728.4

    TLDR : Excess death only occured in 1 age group of over 80. Remove population growth from this and ignore this insane concept where a 85 year olds life is valued the same as a 12 months old in that calculation and you basically have bugger all growth.

    All in all the issue we have is people value lives that have surpassed the average age of death. I simply dont value them highly. Id kill 10 90 year olds to save 1 12 month old and easily do so and so would anyone so why count these lives the same?

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    Can I please see your calculations for Sweden, Brazil and the Netherlands before I comment? Noting you gave very specific percentages that agreed exactly to the website with the outdated data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trigg View Post
    Can I please see your calculations for Sweden, Brazil and the Netherlands before I comment? Noting you gave very specific percentages that agreed exactly to the website with the outdated data.
    Embers
    Last edited by trigg; 10th January 2022 at 01:45 PM.

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    Audit crew coming in hard

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    Is there anything this gooberment can do right, can’t even deport cunts properly.


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    Genuinely hilarious to try and deport him for 100% political games and then still fuck it up.

    On a positive, it's a phenomenal result for the sake of the country if these draconic measures start to fail to hold up under legal challenges.

    At least until they go full retard and ban him for 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wogitalia View Post
    Genuinely hilarious to try and deport him for 100% political games and then still fuck it up.

    On a positive, it's a phenomenal result for the sake of the country if these draconic measures start to fail to hold up under legal challenges.

    At least until they go full retard and ban him for 3 years.
    Agreed.

    Looks like they are still going full retard. As far as I can tell, they've said they can deport him and it won't mean instant 3 years ban (although why would he even bother coming back anyway)

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    Death Riding Civilization: The RZ Coronavirus Thread

    Probably the politically smart move to boot him, no point being incompetent and a pussy.

    In that case he defs will be allowed to stay.

    Could think of about 3 million reasons why he would come back again


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    Keen to see Scomo throw his wife under the bus again, this time somehow for the Novax bungle

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    And Voldemort would have cancelled his visa in an instant of getting the discretion to do so, no fucks given. What type of immigration minister is the new dude?

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    Anyone read the full transcript of the interview between ABF and Novak?

    I know djokervic is a bit of a cunt and all that but fuck me that interview makes Australia and ABF look full retard

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    ABF has always been full retard, reaching peak levels under Dutton.

    So he got a ‘positive’ result 8pm on 16th. He was at the stamp presentation on the 17th and took photos with kids at his tennis club, photoshoot with L'Equipe on the 18th.

    More likely he faked the positive once TA said an infection could get him an exemption. Fakes injuries, fake covid result is nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    ABF has always been full retard, reaching peak levels under Dutton.

    So he got a ‘positive’ result 8pm on 16th. He was at the stamp presentation on the 17th and took photos with kids at his tennis club, photoshoot with L'Equipe on the 18th.

    More likely he faked the positive once TA said an infection could get him an exemption. Fakes injuries, fake covid result is nothing.
    100% December PCR is faked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    In the end I was wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    ABF has always been full retard, reaching peak levels under Dutton.

    So he got a ‘positive’ result 8pm on 16th. He was at the stamp presentation on the 17th and took photos with kids at his tennis club, photoshoot with L'Equipe on the 18th.

    More likely he faked the positive once TA said an infection could get him an exemption. Fakes injuries, fake covid result is nothing.
    Der spiegel have been digging

    https://www.spiegel.de/international...3-7727d4795e97
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    Novak did an instagram post explaining the timestamps. Basically admitted to going to the photoshoot knowing was positibe but not the kids event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athomas View Post
    Novak did an instagram post explaining the timestamps. Basically admitted to going to the photoshoot knowing was positibe but not the kids event.
    Doesn't explain the anomaly with the test ID or the fact scanning the QR code showed a negative test

    "The test results also include QR codes, and when DER SPIEGEL scanned the QR code for the test from Dec. 16, things got strange. At 1:19 p.m. on Monday (CET), the result from the scan was "test result Negative.""
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