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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    Yes who could possibly believe the vaccines work, like say in West Virginia where only 50% of the population is double vaccinated yet they only make up 19% of hospitalisations, 13% of ICU admissions

    https://dhhr.wv.gov/COVID-19/Pages/default.aspx
    Treatment would achieve that same result or concept wouldnt it? Its kind of proving my point. Its not stopping transmission in the slightest so how or why is it a vaccine. When you put up BS numbers like this you are just saying the vaccine is no more then a treatment and with the numbers around the worlds its a relatively shit one. . If you look at UK its basically neck and neck between the two. Cherrypicking stats to suit your argument isnt going to make it stronger though. Especially when you go to Virginia and not say the country we live in. Stats are basically neck and neck at present in Australia. The difference isnt really worth measuring. People are clamming on about reduced hospitilsation rate but that is what every virus in history has done. It mutates down and becomes less severe.

    I guess the concept here is

    You said the vaccine works because it reduces hospitilsations (so nothing about transmission, nice goal post shifting bro). Treatment will do the same doesnt it?

    Why am I wrong about needing to treat the virus rather then vaccinate out of it?

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    Anyway you all bitched out and never answered

    Do you think those under 18 should be vaccinated ?

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    Anyway you all bitched out and never answered

    Do you think those under 18 should be vaccinated ?
    All the reputable literature currently available indicates that any adverse reactions from the vaccines are less prevalent and less severe than the side effects of covid itself.

    So I do believe that under 18s should be vaccinated.
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    Hmmm, highest covid death rates in US since July all occurring in the reddest of red states...



    this stark difference only started manifesting itself since july too



    hmmm just another example "vaccines not working" i suppose...

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    My sister just got informed she’s a close contact of a confirmed case. Seems like she’s almost a certainty to get it imo

    She was at the cricket yesterday with my other sister and we’ve just had a big family breakfast together this morning

    Seems like the showy clan are spending crimbo in isolation
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    With any luck you get the double negative result so you only have to isolate for 6 days. Family still recovering from it, I somehow avoided getting it but the other 6 that spent time in the house all got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan123 View Post
    With any luck you get the double negative result so you only have to isolate for 6 days. Family still recovering from it, I somehow avoided getting it but the other 6 that spent time in the house all got it.
    Close contacts have to isolate for 7 days even with a negative PCR test

    The whole city will be under isolation order by Xmas day the way things are going
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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    Close contacts have to isolate for 7 days even with a negative PCR test

    The whole city will be under isolation order by Xmas day the way things are going
    No private jet Sydney bound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumblah View Post
    No private jet Sydney bound?
    He can come have Crimbo at the Anchorman household, I've been pinged by the NSW check in app as a casual contact twice in the last week when out shopping but there's no chance of being directed to isolate as long as I don't end up hacking my lungs up in hospital

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumblah View Post
    No private jet Sydney bound?
    That’s the dream, even close contacts only need 1 PCR test followed by a few days of rapid antigen testing with no isolation requirements



    South Australia has no rapid antigen testing available…
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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    Close contacts have to isolate for 7 days even with a negative PCR test

    The whole city will be under isolation order by Xmas day the way things are going
    Technically you can get out on day 6 if you get the second negative result quick enough - which is what I did.

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    Huh, no rapid antigen available? Ireland isn't letting you in without an antigen test less than 48 hours old.

    Which was announced the Friday before we were flying back from Spain on the Sunday so we had to find somewhere fast on the Saturday, but luckily we did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Neville View Post
    Huh, no rapid antigen available? Ireland isn't letting you in without an antigen test less than 48 hours old.

    Which was announced the Friday before we were flying back from Spain on the Sunday so we had to find somewhere fast on the Saturday, but luckily we did.
    Now you're on 8pm curfew right?

    Germany announced 2 week quarantine starting tomorrow for brits. Thank fuck I got here Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    All the reputable literature currently available indicates that any adverse reactions from the vaccines are less prevalent and less severe than the side effects of covid itself.

    So I do believe that under 18s should be vaccinated.
    All reputable literature available for a variant that is 3 weeks old tells you these things?

    Dont be daft.

    Omnicron just proves what should have happened since day one. Let the virus run through under 40s and use the treatments available and then watch it die out as it becomes less dangerous.

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    Rapid Antigen tests should be banned really. They are below the acceptable threshold of accuracy. It is why UK numbers appear so high. Tens of thousands of false positives

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    Vaccines don’t work, many such cases

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    In the end I was wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    Vaccines don’t work, many such cases

    Can you get UKs numbers for me? Stop cherry picking minority stats to make your point. The reason you do so is because well the grander stats dont prove you correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embers View Post
    Can you get UKs numbers for me? Stop cherry picking minority stats to make your point. The reason you do so is because well the grander stats dont prove you correct
    Can you go fuck yourself?
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    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...4september2021

    "Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated individuals.

    The weekly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving COVID-19 were consistently lower for people who had received two vaccinations compared with one or no vaccinations."

    weird how all the data from over the world points to the same thing except all the data embers has that he never posted on any topic ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fender View Post
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...4september2021

    "Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated individuals.

    The weekly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving COVID-19 were consistently lower for people who had received two vaccinations compared with one or no vaccinations."

    weird how all the data from over the world points to the same thing except all the data embers has that he never posted on any topic ever.


    Why pick January 2? Why not pick after the new variants?

    Im 100% sure the vaccine worked for Alpha but when new variants come, it doesnt

    This is just basic common sense. Do you think we take the same flu vaccine for 3 years straight? What do you suppose would happen if we did?

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    The vaccine + lowering death rate from a more infectious lower sympton variant also isnt cause and effect unfortunately. Its nature

    Your true analysis comes when you get 10,000 unvaccinated 20-40 year olds and 10,000 vaccinated 20-40 year olds and do your comparison. UK is doing that and well as I said. Much much much smarter bet to just take Vitamin D and K tablets

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    You gotta be a pretty special person to think this is acceptable or normal behaviour

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    Fat cunt Boris looking like he'll put restrictions in because he's looking at cases per day not hospitalisations and deaths from the new variant.

    Fuck these cunts

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    Seems like the South Australian contact tracing infrastructure has completely collapsed, known exposure sites are taking 5 days plus to get listed. Not just that but people who have checked in during contact periods are also not being sent notifications/isolation orders.

    Pretty confident we’ll be seeing case numbers in 4 digits before new year’s eve
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